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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby TheClassicBeast » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:12 am

Pretty nice. I will have to take a look after work! Need to get back to upping my collection soon!
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby gamestechnology » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:10 pm

Thanks.
If anyone wants advice on the process of sealed games or grading then I'd be glad to help.
I've been selling games since the days of importing Japanese megadrive, (but only collecting the last 5).
I can help to (sensibly) value a game and advise on whether or not (if you're thinking about it) to get it graded.
In almost all cases it's not; my standard advice would be not to avoid it.
It's advantageous on unique or very high priced items or games to preserve or add credibility when selling.
But games don't feel like games anymore, so even though it adds in certain ways, it takes away soul.
Ironically, if you're buying then I don't see grading as a major problem, as a game is more likely to be legit and can be opened down the line and recased as you see fit.
Technically it should only cost more than £25 (the average cost of grading including postage) more than the other copy that's sealed but not graded, but there are a lot of dishonest sellers online who fail to mention damage or tears to a seal, so arguably it can be worth a bit more to avoid being conned, but not ridiculously more.
If you can wait and get a copy non graded, it's usually worth doing so despite the extra risk, as nowadays it's fairly easy to return anything online, although I've been conned with a resealed PS1 game where inexplicably Paypal refused to process a return.
So definitely caveat emptor applies (buyer beware), but at least you have XIV dies reditum (14 day return) under distance selling law on anything you're unhappy with.
Leave it longer and you're reus erit adepto life (liable to get screwed).
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby Spasho » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:08 pm

Grading games is a scam. Anyone can grade a game because there's nothing that says they know it better than the rest. Come on. You're trying to scam people, gamestechnology.
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby gamestechnology » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:20 pm

It's definitely a niche market and I respect your opinion.
It's advantage is in peace of mind to a buyer on certain rarities (not just games, but for instance baseball cards and star wars figures).
If there wasn't a market for it, it simply wouldn't exist.
I think the commerciality of Christmas is a scam, but there's a market for it and no matter what I or you say it'll carry on.
In some ways you could argue the same of anything collectable or any holiday or special calendar event (halloween, fire works day, and a whole host of charity days, as well as the cost of petrol to the consumer compared with what it actually costs).
None of these are a scam if you want to buy or donate, and I won't defend grading, Christmas etc from those who dislike it as I can see their points; if you don't use a scheme you'll never see the value of it.
It won't stop you driving a car despite the fact that you being well and truly hammered by tax.
For those that want to buy a pricey collectable then despite it's blatant commercialism then it has it's place.

As a rule, a gameplayer will overwhelmingly think these services are a scam, as they simply want to play, not look at a game on a shelf.
A small minority of collectors don't mind grading and I would (if I'm not paying ridiculously more) prefer to a bit extra for a safety net against a fraudulent seller (I've been hit by a few over the years).
So for instance step into the shoes of someone who wants to buy a sealed Zelda on SNES at £800+and sees a sealed and graded one for £850 - Would they be right to veer towards the graded for peace of mind.
No real risk of being conned for £50 more would be fair.
Clearly no-one sensible would want to pay much extra, so I'd agree that if the graded was say £2000 then that's crazy and should be avoided.
I think this (and the closed off cases) are the biggest issues with the system.
I think is there was a viable alternative to grading which worked around some of the issues then it would be more popular (for instance, cases which opened easily), but for now if you are against then simply don't use it or buy it, but to label anything outrightly one way or another is a little blinkered.
If I could similarly make Christmas just about the good part of it and ban all the crap that goes along then I'd do it.
There's a grain of reasoning behind grading, which if you could strip away all the issues that surround it does make sense.
But for those against then you'll need a awful lot of convincing, and if I'm honest I might well think the same until the point of the Zelda example above - I buy a lot of sealed and do indeed come along crooked reseals regularly and find the process of getting my money back slow and painful, and not 100% cut and dry.
Personally I'm more against than for, and respect anyone's opinion either way.
I'd prefer a free service where a manufacturer stickered the actual game, allowing you to buy your own storage case or sleeve.
We do live in a commercial world though and companies (including most of the publishers of the games we play and collect - most weren't made or published for charity) want to fleece us of as much of our money as possible.
It's easy for anyone who thinks grading is an outright con to simply not use it, thus limiting it's market, but unfortunately not so easy to avoid using a car, spending loads at Christmas, buying sweets and costumes at halloween, and a ton more things which are there to partly add some value to our lives, but manipulated in ways to fleece us.
All can be limited with a bit of common sense.

Anyway, why does everyone seem to want to debate grading?
I thought I opened an ebay thread?
That doesn't mean that I want to debate ebay either (as I'd also add this to the list of potential cons unless you can get some value out of it).
No more now. Thanks.
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby Joe Boy 1986 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:26 pm

because most collectors do not believe in grading and you've come to a collector forum to make money using a practice that is generally frowned upon. Surely you can see it's a touchy subject?
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby pineapple-king » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:39 pm

Grading is just degrading. It's my new campaign slogan. It's taking stupid and ignorant peoples money for an ugly plastic box. The games don't play any better, in fact they can't be played as they are trapped in a stupid box. I can get people may want to collect a sealed game (don't understand, it would be like buying a Ferrari and keeping it in the car showroom) but grading is a step too far. These people are con artists trying to pass theirselves off as experts. They have no qualifications and no right to pretend they are experts.

Ps anyone want their game graded send your game and £20 and I will look at it, stick it in a box and give it a score on how pretty the box is. Don't ask me what the number means, I won't be able to explain just like the crooks at VGA
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby Spasho » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:37 pm

pineapple-king wrote:Grading is just degrading. It's my new campaign slogan. It's taking stupid and ignorant peoples money for an ugly plastic box. The games don't play any better, in fact they can't be played as they are trapped in a stupid box. I can get people may want to collect a sealed game (don't understand, it would be like buying a Ferrari and keeping it in the car showroom) but grading is a step too far. These people are con artists trying to pass theirselves off as experts. They have no qualifications and no right to pretend they are experts.

Ps anyone want their game graded send your game and £20 and I will look at it, stick it in a box and give it a score on how pretty the box is. Don't ask me what the number means, I won't be able to explain just like the crooks at VGA

Totally agree. As to why some keep sealed games, well sometimes it's just for the collection without ever wanting to play them or, hack the console/handheld and play their backups.

I'm collecting 3DS games currently however, only sealed UKV copies due to wanting them in complete and exactly factory sealed instead of being second hand. Downside of this sealed-only hunt is that it's becoming hard to find certain games as they're out of print and demand ridiculous prices on the market.
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby Joe Boy 1986 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:56 pm

Buying a factory sealed, unopened game is fine and completely different to a random person looking at a used second hand game, stroking their chin, giving it a grade and then casing it in a £2.50 box.
Is their a qualification or specialist training that you can undertake to grade and box video games? Oh, there isn't? Well bugger me, why aren't we all doing it?
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby Durst.P.I. » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:52 am

Joe Boy 1986 wrote:Buying a factory sealed, unopened game is fine and completely different to a random person looking at a used second hand game, stroking their chin, giving it a grade and then casing it in a £2.50 box.
Is their a qualification or specialist training that you can undertake to grade and box video games? Oh, there isn't? Well bugger me, why aren't we all doing it?


I need a job, give me a few bob and I'll grade whatever the hell you like! I'll have your whole house furnished with these translucent boxes and then you can flog the house as some sort of 'nouveau art project'.

Imagine having a whole house graded, it would be like some sort of time capsule house that people can admire... So chuck me a pony and I'll get to work or something.

20% of all profits from showing your house off as an art project will go to me, the rest is you.
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby gamestechnology » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:37 pm

I've got approx 150 1p start ebay auctions running for sealed games.

One example (Cheetahmen 2 LL sealed Nes) :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=132146249828&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Thanks.
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