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Postby gamestechnology » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:33 pm

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Postby T Moleman » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:00 pm

You'll find no love for VGA grades here.
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby gamestechnology » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:04 pm

I'm relatively neutral on them and can see both sides of the argument, although if pushed either way I'd go slightly against on a personal level due to not liking the big slabby cases that are designed not to open and therefore risk damaging the item they are designed to protect.
On the other hand, I'd rather pay £20 more for a graded version than risk getting a reseal or damaged seal; it has a level of validation if you're buying something very rare, but I'd only pay slightly over the actual cost of grading.
Definitely a waste of time unless it's something you'd be financially bonkers to open, so people aiming to grade for instance a £15 DS game are misguided.
I therefore mostly sell straight sealed and simply describe any flaws, however minor.
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Postby pineapple-king » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:32 am

Games are for playing. If you want to keep them sealed in a horrible looking plastic box you may as well collect cat ornaments or tea lights. Plus who made these people the experts on looking at boxes and grading them? What does the number even mean, does a 95 play better than an 85 because as a collector that's all I care about.
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Postby gamestechnology » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:20 pm

I completely agree.
But on the other side, the guy that does the UK grading service does in fact know his stuff and for the right person (who does want to stare at a very expensive ornament) then it makes sense.
In an ideal world graded games would have cases that opened easily and the service would have a team of recognised experts on hand with total transparency in who they are, their industry experience, and therefore it might sway a few more diehard gamers that don't want to see games turned into ornaments/cash cows/share certificates.
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Postby Spasho » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:54 pm

Graded games mean really nothing, it's just graded by someone and by eBay standards it somehow becomes more 'valuable' than it is. Pat the NES Punk from YouTube talked about it and he's 100% right.



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I posted a topic on RetroCollect in the past about graded games and here it is - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11324
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Postby Joe Boy 1986 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:21 pm

Spasho wrote:Graded games mean really nothing, it's just graded by someone and by eBay standards it somehow becomes more 'valuable' than it is. Pat the NES Punk from YouTube talked about it and he's 100% right.



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I posted a topic on RetroCollect in the past about graded games and here it is - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11324


Yeah, I remember the thread Spash has just linked. This collecting community really don't see the value in it.
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Postby gamestechnology » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:28 am

Again agreed, but suppose you replace the £50 game (that's clearly not worth grading anyway) with a £1000 game that if opened would knock the value down to £300. No-one sensible is going to open it, so it's already an ornament. In this instance I could see the sense in grading it, even though I'd prefer to put it in a collector case that can be opened easily; at least then if the external case get's scratched or you decide to open the game then you can easily do.
I think where the process most grates with collectors is in closing off a game to touch and making it a commercial investment (a bit like Christmas has been commercialised), coupled with the price hikes (where possible just the grading and postage cost should be added).
People get carried away with adding too much, or grading £20 games, which is clearly madness.
Even though I don't particularly like grading it hasn't stopped me selling them.
I definitely prefer to sell sealed non graded as a rule, and I'm sure there's also a percentage of collectors that would like to see every game unsealed and played with (as otherwise what's the point in them), but of course that would be financially painful in a lot of cases.
I've often thought about selling a used copy of a game alongside the sealed or graded one so a buyer could play one and put the other in the loft.
Unfortunately, once anything is collectable it tends to rise in value as collectors pay higher and higher for it, so if games ever stop being sought after then clearly the grading services will also die.
Not likely of course.
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Postby pineapple-king » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:21 am

The retro video game scene is nostalgia driven. As in I want to play master system games and megadrive games because I have happy memories of the systems when I was a kid, and now have a decent job and the space to collect. Do you really think our children and grandchildren are going to want rubbish old technology? The bottom will fallout of the retro game scene as younger people Seek out the consoles of their childhood, and us old yins lose interest. At the moment it's a great investment, 20 years time it's a serious risk. The problem I have with video game grading is that it preys on the stupid and uninformed only in the hobby for a quick buck, or thinking they are getting something special. I have never spoke with anybody who collects video games who agrees with the practice.
Yes I see your point as well, it's supply and demand, you only sell them because you can make money from them, and people want them so I'm not having a go at you. Merely having a go at an unregulated, unregistered body who are trying to ruin a hobby I love and Im already being priced out of.
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Postby gamestechnology » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:00 am

Yes as normal it's the commercialism that spoils the fun.
Similar to walking around a bootsale hoping to find a retro game worth buying, but coming up empty because the dealers have harassed each seller before they've got out of their car for anything of value, often bullying each seller to sell them super cheap whilst they are in a disorientated state upon arrival.
If this commercialism could be removed then that would also be a lot more fun and affordable.
I personally have 'no love' for this practice so can understand how you feel.
I suppose on the bright side adding a high value to any item at least ensures it's survival, as otherwise (like 70's furniture) until this happens it goes in landfill
But that doesn't help newcomers get into retro gaming or nostalgic players buy back their childhood, as prices on even Playstation 3 games are rising if deemed collectable.
I don't think they they'll go the way of beanie babies unless VR makes a virtual collection an option; an potentially exciting or frighteningly dystopian future awaits us.
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Postby Joe Boy 1986 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:41 am

Are you yourself a collector?
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Postby gamestechnology » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:59 pm

Yes, but I also buy and sell mainly sealed games, using the commercial side to fund anything I personally want to play or collect as well as buy up overstocks that aren't valued now, but might be not too far into the future (a bit risky and requires a crystal ball).

I try to hang onto titles I have an emotional connection to, irrespective of a resale value.

I think everyone has their own individual slant on what they want to collect and the systems they treasure, and I find some of the old technology fascinating, especially when the pure basic gameplay of certain games is far superior to the bloated and uninspiring crap put out there on the modern systems (obviously there was plenty of bloat on the zx spectrum, nes, snes, etc too).

I'm not one for collecting every game on a system, am not bothered either way about game grading (it has it's little place in the scheme of things and one day I'm guessing they'll all be lasered open and recased more sensibly anyway), and I'm not overly bothered about the commercialism of collecting as these things go hand in hand.

But I would ideally prefer to see more accessibility for collectors and gamers to older technology without the heavy costs , so clearly emulators are a big thumbs up, but I'm not so keen on repros or recreated consoles, as I see them as another cash in opportunity.
There's nothing better than having the original console and game set up, even though it's hassle and often costly (hence the hatred of graded, as it's pure commercialism).

But obviously the commercial side is nothing new.
I can remember when an early purchase of an import PS1 console cost £1000; similar to VR now, early adoptors get screwed.
So whilst certain systems go up, some come down (fast with VR I hope), as I'm waiting patiently after completely skipping playstation move, wii point, and xbox shuffle?
Did I miss anything?
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Postby Joe Boy 1986 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:14 pm

Not for me champ, more power to ya.
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Postby Spasho » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:04 am

Graded companies don't have to take a PhD to do such thing, anyone can but even with that, there are people who think games increase in value simply because they've been graded. Ultimately, they end up hiking up the price and making it even less likely of anyone to purchase it.

If anyone wants to buy protective plastic cases like those they can.

P.S. Just checked on eBay if there were any graded Sonic Boom WiiU copies and no, but if I were to guess, the graders would've given it an 85 as that's the score games normally get. :lol:
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Postby VCOFTHENFE » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:29 pm

I have always been interested in this grading of video games, unless you have an abundance of cash laying around I cannot understand why you would effectively imprison a game that was made to be played, not stared at like like naked ladies in Amsterdam's red light district (only difference being you can play with some of them depending on what container they are in) Anywho, each to their own. Just my ten pence worth :p
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Postby gamestechnology » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:44 am

It's without a doubt not popular and is a niche market, but each to their own and there must be more unusual and pointless collections out there than games in hard plastic cases.

Whilst respecting everyone's opinion for or against, there's definitely a minority of collectors who will pay a little more for a graded version, simply to avoid being conned.
These hiked prices do indeed inflate the sealed variants, but not so much the used; I'd go with rarity and popularity as the main factors influencing price, as well as perceived collectability.

The higher in demand a game is clearly the more a collector or gamer will pay; I've just seen Castlevania SOTN PS1 go for £175 for instance due to it being highly sought after and still a decent game.
It even had black marker pen on the disc and leaflet.
If mint it probably would have soared to £250-£300.
But on the other end of the scale lookup Fifa Soccer on PS1 and it'll be under a fiver; i only but stuff like this as a spare case.

I buy overstocks or job lots and single sell each item, so if anyone has anything of interest by all means let me know.
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Postby Joe Boy 1986 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:00 am

So you've basically just come here to make money from us?
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Postby gamestechnology » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:11 pm

Ouch!
Not so far.
I am posting in the ebay section aren't I?

i am actually interested in the wider world of collecting outside of my little bubble and the opinions on grading are of course interesting, but indeed I do buy and sell games, so i'll admit that was my primary focus, but not the only one.

i will explore some other forums and comment if I feel I have anything to offer.
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Postby Spasho » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:43 pm

simply to avoid being conned.

The simple way to not being conned is by not getting the games' graded. If anyone wants protective boxes, then just buy them on eBay or specified websites that sell them.
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Re: Sealed & Graded Games for sale on eBay

Postby gamestechnology » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:15 am

I put my games in those plastic wallet envelopes that you can get in the £1 shop (25 for a £1) - I find that they work well in protecting against shelf wear, aren't too tight, and you can use 3 or 4 to provide a fairly robust layer on more fragile cardboard boxes ~(snes, gameboy, etc.).

I have a few hard laminate cases too and they are also pretty good, and probably the best choice if on a shelf.

I don't even mind the thin plastic cases that fold out and fit snugly around for instance SNES games; they tend to make the cardboard look less worn, help them to stand up on a shelf, and keep shelf wear at bay.
Some can be a bit too tight though.

Like most things it's down to individual choice.
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